SURVEY – What would you think of a Alpine with a Mercedes engine in F1?

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Briatore, A290, Mercedes... They would do anything to sink Alpine.😭😭😭

1% of the world's population (the Franco-French people who think that the world resembles their country) will be sad. the rest will be much more pragmatic! It's better to take a Mercedes rather than continue to make a fool of themselves like they have been doing for 10 years. Was the new engine promising? like the developments on the current one? in which area has the brand shone in recent years? It is time to admit that in France, we no longer have the means to achieve our ambitions. we must stop dreaming and do like the others; face reality and adapt to it. It's not a win with self-satisfied people!

I am sad for Alpine. How can Renault abandon a team which has fought for almost 50 years to develop the Renault engine in F1? I have always been proud to defend my beliefs for the diamond. Renault, a precursor having revolutionized the world of Grands Prix by imposing turbo engine technology in 1978, born in the Amédée Gordini factory in Viry-Châtillon, located in Essonne, south of Paris! How can we imagine a Alpine F1 with an engine other than that of Renault? The choice of another engine is astonishing and constitutes serious professional misconduct, not to mention the impact on the brand image. A Alpine with a German engine? I find this disastrous for the image and incomprehensible.

Don't forget that as a good Italian, Luca De Méo is even more pragmatic than Carlos Tavares: for him, the end justifies the means, so absolutely no qualms about stopping being an engine driver in F1 from the moment the proposed solution works. On the other hand, I would not like to be the one who promised him victories with a PowerUnit bearing the Star logo...

What can I say about the management of this team. Last year there was a purge at Enstone due to the presence of grunts who blocked everything and now it's ultimately Viry that the problem comes from. The engine would cost too much while they all negotiated to keep the "same v6 with less stuff that costs too much". If it costs so much (to develop) this new engine, no manufacturer will want to abandon it in 4 years. Honda, Mercedes don't have the same objective in the civilian sector (more electric)? I can't find many (any) valid excuses. I even fear that the postponement to the weekend is a decoy (when we allow ourselves to snub test sessions (Austin) it does not send a good message.

Oops, no, not “scabies” but “rabies”!

Bravo YVR as always perfectly and judiciously well written "Current PowerUnit the weakest on the board for some time already" That's a much too kind description, never since 2014 has the engine been up to standard, and I'm not fooled, in Viry they make do with what we give them, it seems with 25% less than with the best, clearly therefore, they are damn good. Today we are given to compare the 100 million needed for Viry and the 17 million annually for a customer engine, if we only take that into account, why did you wait so long!? In short, “when you want to kill your dog you accuse it of having mange”. In a world where marketing and language are not the norm, I would have liked Renault to tell us: "We no longer have the means to achieve our ambitions as an engine manufacturer, we are doing everything to promote the brand Alpine whatever the human consequences.

Absolute fan of Renault (sport and personal), it is appropriate to be pragmatic (and it hurts...): 10 years of failure for Renault in terms of engine: power, reliability, flexibility, ... as is often the case in France we cling to a glorious history but which has not been repeated for 10 years already. And Mercedes' means, as observed by the Viry engineers themselves, make Renault appear to be a craftsman, in the bad sense of the word. So the equation is simple: the budget cap prohibits exceeding €130 million in annual investment (which will have to be reproduced over several years) which de facto does not allow you to integrate 100% of the production (editor's note like Mercedes), sine qua none condition to compete. You are facing 10 years of failure, and 17 million per year to obtain the (almost) best F1 engine... No photo. So the subject is how to use Viry's skills for other projects and not block the starting of the engines...

Good evening Yves-Henri, completely agree with you, everything is said in 14 lines and 3 words, very good comment without mistakes that a certain GF (carried by the grace of Franco Colapinto, lol!!) should take into account example !!!!!....

Complicated to make 2 "enemy" entities work together (France and the perfidious Albion), current PowerUnit the weakest on the board for some time already, expensive new engine - certainly too much for the planned duration of 2026 to 2029 inclusive before a whole new 2030 regulations which could mark the return of thermal energy (with the arrival of e-fuel and/or hydrogen), opportunity to disconnect Viry-Chatillon from the entity Alpine F1 at Enstone, hence the possibility of reselling Enstone to a new entrant (with supporting engine contract) for a nice chunk of dollars. Furthermore, no more link between the Product plan Alpine road (100% electric or perhaps hydrogen) and the future F1 engine (electrified hybrid PowerUnit). What's more, historic Alpinists will not be the target of future Alpine of road because BEV while the new customers to seek (Yankees especially!) will be less sensitive to the past of the brand and will not make the link with F1. How many Mercedes AMG, Aston Martin and McLaren customers make the link with F1 when the road-going McLarens are not powered by Mercedes AMG? Let's hope that the Viry-Chatillon "project" allows engine manufacturers to express themselves fully in the WEC, on the hydrogen combustion engine and to find success elsewhere than in F1!